Comments on: Health Care Part Deux http://www.craigsanatomy.com/2007/07/health-care-part-deux/ I'd like to thank the interwebs. Wed, 19 May 2010 20:45:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: lugubrious sanity http://www.craigsanatomy.com/2007/07/health-care-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-74 lugubrious sanity Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:37:03 +0000 http://craigsanatomy.com/?p=58#comment-74 A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke -- Groucho Marx Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929. If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee -- that will do them in -- Bradley's Bromide I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members -- Groucho Marx A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke — Groucho Marx
Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau. Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.

If computers get too powerful, we can organize them into a committee — that will do them in — Bradley’s Bromide
I don’t care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members — Groucho Marx

]]> By: Kyle Lambelet http://www.craigsanatomy.com/2007/07/health-care-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-73 Kyle Lambelet Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:44:00 +0000 http://craigsanatomy.com/?p=58#comment-73 Craig,<br/><br/>Watched Sicko last night. You should definately spend the two hours to see it. Certainly he brings a pretty narrow lens, but it does drive home the point made above about caring for our neighbors. What we do as a society to the "least of these" makes me sick. It is completely disgusting. <br/><br/>And then to blame the abuse on those who suffer under it because they can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps is not only just politically ignorant but is spiritually blasphemous.<br/><br/>What kind of people are we (as a nation, as a church, as members of the human family) if we allow those who live in our communities to die (literally) when a medical procedure could significantly extend the length and quality of ones life? <br/><br/>It seems truly insane to me. Anyway, I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on this (you've allowed everyone else to voice their opinions, now it's time for you to get in). Craig,

Watched Sicko last night. You should definately spend the two hours to see it. Certainly he brings a pretty narrow lens, but it does drive home the point made above about caring for our neighbors. What we do as a society to the “least of these” makes me sick. It is completely disgusting.

And then to blame the abuse on those who suffer under it because they can’t pull themselves up by their bootstraps is not only just politically ignorant but is spiritually blasphemous.

What kind of people are we (as a nation, as a church, as members of the human family) if we allow those who live in our communities to die (literally) when a medical procedure could significantly extend the length and quality of ones life?

It seems truly insane to me. Anyway, I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on this (you’ve allowed everyone else to voice their opinions, now it’s time for you to get in).

]]> By: Kyle Lambelet http://www.craigsanatomy.com/2007/07/health-care-part-deux/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Kyle Lambelet Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:06:00 +0000 http://craigsanatomy.com/?p=58#comment-72 Your Canadian friend makes a compelling argument for socialized health care. Visit a public hospital in any major US city (if it hasn't been closed due to lack of funds) and you will see another compelling argument for systematic change.<br/><br/>I have to confess that I am one of th 45.8 million who doesn't have health insurance in the US (visit http://www.census.gov/prod/<br/>2005pubs/p60-229.pdf, no break). So my reflections on the state of the health care system emerge from my own experience.<br/><br/>It is interesting to me that your friend's way of conceptualizing the health care system in Canada actually moves us away from the frighteningly impersonal bureaucracy that so many are anxious about and toward a more "neighborly" society. The reason for a socialized health system emerges from the desire that our neighbors and friends who are poor (as well as rich) have all of their basic health needs taken care of. <br/><br/>I do have some hesitation about receiving health care from the perpetrator of preemptive strikes and perpetual war through the war on(of) "terror." But it may be that grass-roots health co-ops might form a parallel structure to governmental and corporate health care that can hold both accountable.<br/><br/>In any case, I'm going to work for a society in which the kind of neighborly concern (justice) that your Canadian friend spoke of is the norm. After all, isn't that what the parable of the good Samaritan is all about. Your Canadian friend makes a compelling argument for socialized health care. Visit a public hospital in any major US city (if it hasn’t been closed due to lack of funds) and you will see another compelling argument for systematic change.

I have to confess that I am one of th 45.8 million who doesn’t have health insurance in the US (visit http://www.census.gov/prod/
2005pubs/p60-229.pdf, no break). So my reflections on the state of the health care system emerge from my own experience.

It is interesting to me that your friend’s way of conceptualizing the health care system in Canada actually moves us away from the frighteningly impersonal bureaucracy that so many are anxious about and toward a more “neighborly” society. The reason for a socialized health system emerges from the desire that our neighbors and friends who are poor (as well as rich) have all of their basic health needs taken care of.

I do have some hesitation about receiving health care from the perpetrator of preemptive strikes and perpetual war through the war on(of) “terror.” But it may be that grass-roots health co-ops might form a parallel structure to governmental and corporate health care that can hold both accountable.

In any case, I’m going to work for a society in which the kind of neighborly concern (justice) that your Canadian friend spoke of is the norm. After all, isn’t that what the parable of the good Samaritan is all about.

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